Thanks very much Fraser for your information, I appreciate!! Lots of good stuff on the two Facebook pages, didn't know them. I went to Eagle lake couple of weeks ago to check it out, unfortunately there was no wind that day, where do you usually enter, at the camping place to the East? Sorry, one more question, I saw the Windfinder forecast page for Keho Lake Kite Ranch posted on the forum. From your experience, how accurate is the daily forecast? Trustworthy enough to go there?